*Official Thread* Anthem AVM 70 & 90 and MRX 540, 740 & 1140

Currently using the Denon 6700h but considering the AVM 90 or the Denon A1H.
Can’t really find any comparisons between any of these models…

Has anyone here done a similar comparison or directly between the best of audyssey vs ARCg?

I’m going to say in a few words as I really dun see the need to delve too much into it. If my memory serves me right, the X6700 model doesn’t come with with Dirac (TBA), so it will be just Audyssey which is very good if and the emphasis here is “IF” you are the type that is willing to do more calibration after Audyssey to tune the sound and bass to your liking. For Anthem, you will get pretty good and balanced sound and bass even using the default results from your first calibration attempt (if you’ve done it right).

Pick your poison.

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11 days and no one has written anything wow.

What do you want to know? Most users have shared our knowledge on ARC Genesis. If you have a question, just post here and we will help to answer.

I’ve written to anthem on getting a dialnorm feature disabled for dolby encoded soundtracks

They are checking with the engineers, hopefully we get a positive reply soon with the upcoming firmware update, hopefully…. Not going to put my hopes up, but will continue to hope this happens

Finally I got a reply today, so if we do get this feature on the next update, I’ll go for the update !

I’m seeing this on the full bluray movie “bumblebee”

It’s bluray Meridian lossless track is showing a -27db dialnorm which essentially means the sound track has -4db dialnorm offset. This cannot be disabled on the anthem. We could do this with the lyngodorf and some denon models.

However the mkv remux version doesn’t have this dialnorm metadata, so the same bumblebee movie sounds louder compared to the original bluray movie in BDMV … hmmmmm

Also this full BDMV for bumblebee, contains the DV FEL layer, (Full enhancement layer), so it’s very good in video quality as the FEL layer is in 12 bit colour depth. Whilst the same mkv version has the dolby layer, our Oppo 205 players are defaulting to HDR10 base layer , we cannot trigger the Oppo to choose the DV once it is in .mkv format … :sob:

in the latest BEQ, you will find compensation for dialnorm too, for those AVR/processors which are not capable of bypassing dialnorm…… lol

Ya not all the folks use BEQ… in fact many don’t , very few of them do…

And also some only choose to apply BEQ on shakers or actuators and not the mains subs,

Or some only applies them to the deep bass subs and not midbass subs

So having this dialnorm thing in the BEQ creates a lot more work for these guys

It is still a unnecessary feature that should not exist imo

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Got the remote exchanged .

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Wah so nice !! Congrats :tada:

So good they change it :partying_face:

Yup…just tried,waited about 2 weeks.

Can’t agree more…

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Someone from AVSForum leaked that Roon support is finally coming in Fall which is about 1 or 2 mths away. For those interested.

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Just watched Shane Lee’s review of the Transformers and Flash 4k streaming versions. Both were super soft and needed a lot of volume boost to sound decent.

i wonder if this is not the reason for Atmouse, dialnorm causing the MV offset 4 or 6 or 10dB. As long dynamic compression or Night modes are disabled, dialnorm just causes the MV offset and can be compensated by raising the MV accordingly.

Any news about DTS X Pro?

Were you able to disable dynamic compression on the anthem ? Is yes, how do solve this and how do you know ? Raising the MV won’t disable dynamic compression on the anthem

As usual, it will be followed after the release of Roon. :grin:

I think the Dolby processing is selected here…

Selecting NONE should disable any compression related to dialnorm?

Leave it at “None” to avoid any kind of dynamic compression from being engaged which in turn affects the overall dynamics of the sound mix.

thats not the Dynamic range compression being disabled. That is Post Processing not being Engaged. They are two different things. Post processing is Anthem’s own processing, nothing to do with what is present in the dolby file you see below.

If we look at this Bumbleebee Full Bluray Rip, just on the audio section. It contains the metadata in the audio file itself. This data then communicates with the Anthem Processor and process the audio accordingly based on the metadata Bitstreamed across. It is not part of the sound. The processor sees these dialnorm and compression flags and applies the Dynamic Range Compression together with dialnorm , reducing the loudest passage and increasing the softest passage in the soundtrack & also lowering the overall dialog levels by approx 5+db as you can see from the file. What follows then is the Autobots voices sounds the same as the human voices. Whilst this is good in a room with high ambient noise , (softer volume details not heard because of room ambient noise but now easier to hear), it is not something consumers enjoy during the day. It also helps with movie watching at night, something like Dialog enhancer setting on audyssey where you dont want to hear loud explosions kicking in all of a sudden. So it don’t think dynamic compression from the dolby file is disabled by selecting none on post processing. That is why i have written to Anthem and hope they provide an option for us to set on the processor to ignore these flags in the metadata.

On the MKV remux version, this dialnorm metadata and dynamic compression data does not exists. Its being stripped away. So when the autobots speak, they sound louder compared to the humans , easily by 4db. This was audible when i was testing the video for HDR10+ vs Dolby Vision. That is why i dived in further to this and wrote to Anthem.

Its been awhile since I last play with a Denon AVR, pls refresh my memory which setting or option in Denon/Marantz is able to disable the DialNorm again?