I know what you mean, the anthem setting doesn’t quite have the same options and Denon marantz for disabling the dynamic compression.
However it does say Dolby audio post processing , not Anthem. Would be good if Anthem could clarify on this.
Also, I recently saw this option on MRX1140 for center spread with DSU. But the AVM90 doesn’t have it…
I agreed with Gavin, this seems to point at a universal “Dolby Audio Post Processing” and is not unique to Anthem processor. Whatever case it is, this should always be “none” for critical listening of all kinds of content.
On the denon models we have these settings to disable it, loudness management and dynamic compression
I think this is referring to additional processing when a dolby signal is decoded by the anthem, a specific voicing is being applied , ie Equalisation for late night movie watching, for music mode or action movies
It has nothing to do with dolby… it’s mainly what anthem can do if it receives a dolby signal
Have u seen Dolby coming out with music , HT or night profiles ? I haven’t heard of such a thing
Ah…thanks “Loudness Management”…now I recalled.
This is what we want made available in our anthem, the option to defeat dialnorm and dynamic compression.
You can see from the above file, the bitstream metadata had these dynamic range compression +5db and a dialnorm offset of -4db in the original BDMV file.
The exact same movie, won’t sound the same on an mkv remux…it’s not just about raising MV
Give it a try on this bumblebee movie, u will probably grab the remote to increase the MV. Switch over to “A Quiet place 2” u will again grab the remote and reduce the volume 
and start wondering, eh how come calibrated to reference but this one sounds so loud the other one sounds so soft… one has that sudden burst of loudness and one doesn’t ? Something wrong with the mastering ? U might wonder… actually nothing is wrong with the anthem, it’s the source…
Play the same bumblebee movie on the denon 3700, that fella don’t have this issue … he don’t need to grab the remote and keep changing volume … then he says, same what! Mkv and bluray same volume, I don’t hear any difference! So actually on his denon, dial norm and dynamic compression has been defeated
I’m not sure this is something that Anthem will want to invest in their time to look into nor come up with an option to defeat the DialNorm. But I’m glad you brought this to Anthem support’s attention. Hopefully, something good will come out of this but I wouldn’t hold my breath for this request. If there is an attenuation of 4dB because the DialNorm is set at the normal -27dB for movies, I will just increase the MV.
Ya try la!! If we don’t highlight, we don’t stand a chance, if we highlight, we might, even if that’s 0.001% chance… like buying Toto 12m draw 
Yes, I am fully aware of this DialNorm offset that is causing the volume to fluctuate for the longest time so I just gave up. But if playing some ripped MKV files, one can always choose to strip this metadata from the mkv which I did most of the time. So it is never an issue for me when it comes to playback mkv files BUT the more annoying one is streaming a movie in DD+ lossy with Dolby Atmos which I have no control but to constantly change the MV for different movies I played.
Tmr when you come over, I can playback these 2 clips as both are in my AVDisco Demo Sampler V1.
Since we are talking about DialNorm and DRC…I think we should also remember Dolby implementation of Loudness management called “Dolby Volume”. I read somewhere that Dolby Audio Post Processing (DAPP) is the new Dolby Volume. And if this is indeed the case, then Anthem’s DAPP drop-list containing Movie, Music, and Night is the Dynamic Range Control suited for the 3 types of content. If my memory serves me right, in the past I had mentioned Dynamic EQ (DEQ), Loudness Management (thanks to Bryan for jotting my memory with the screenshot) and Dolby Volume seems to emulate the “night mode” in different ways but if DAPP is indeed the successor of Dolby Volume, then selecting “None” should equate to selecting “No” on Loudness Management which some of is believed to be the way to defeat DialNorm offset. So Gavin could be right.
A walk down memory lane on Dolby Volume…
I’m pretty sure it’s not the case. Because such type of dynamic range compression does not exist. For dynamic compression to exist, it is either a yes or a no. There is no such thing as apply dynamic range compression for movies or HT or night mode. The compression that applies is coming off the volume slider, in terms of Decibles . There is no such thing as apply “x” amount of compression for movies, apply “y” amount of compression for music and Z for night mode… don’t make any sense
The processor is processing dynamic compression based on these flags that are present in the bluray file.
Either it chooses to ignore or accept. The denon models 3700 can ignore these flags. There is no 3rd option for the decoder.
Once it reaches the limit of X decibel, it applies a correction for 5db dynamic compression , if it doesn’t, it plays back at the average 3db compression … that’s all it’s doing with this movie
The same movie, won’t sound like that on an mkv remux , because these flags do not exist and the decoder has nothing to decode … so it plays back without applying any dynamic range compression
Found this reference in the avsforum AVM90 thread. Strangely it is from the JBL manuals.
It seems to be the latest implementation of the various dolby dynamic compression and loudness processing.
Me and Bryan have a fruitful discussion today about this DialNorm, Dolby Volume and Dolby Audio Post Processing (DAPP) topics…He shared with me his understanding and I shared mine. We even did a live demo on what the DRC for Movie does to the overall loudness. I’ll let Bryan share his thoughts. DialNorm is a metadata and existed only when playback in bitstream and the flag will be activated at the digital domain before passing the metadata over to the AVR or Amp’s D-A conversion.
Thanks Desray for allowing me to audit the Anthem Processor and MK sub. Love how the surround effects produce by the Anthem, definitely Desray did a good job to fine tune his system to give me a feel of immersive sound experience from the demo.
For the bass on the MK X12. I feel the bass was fuller and more meaty as compared to JL E112… love both sub how it integrate into the system…
For most of the time we are chatting and sharing our thoughts and how we experience HT and Music differently. Have a wonderful chatting with Desray 
Thanks desray for your time yesterday. I havent had the time to reply as I was busy working out on how to get the projector calibration to track what I was seeing at your place. The JVC Laser with lumagen didn’t disappoint. The video looked very natural and beautiful, it was like a reference point for me to bring home and try and match up to what I just saw. Im glad I visited you, it was so good catching up after such a long time.
So much has changed since and the sound is also fantastic. Not only bass slam is happening at chest levels, the bass articulation was really good as well. I could feel the energy move as the cars swerve left to right. The bass shakers though crossed at 50hz, didn’t really draw attention and supplemented the subwoofer energy nicely.
The system was well calibrated. Immediately you can tell the quality. I enjoyed it because I was experiencing all the details and refinement
With regards to dial norm, dynamic compression , you have explained it correctly
DialNorm is a metadata and existed only when playback in bitstream and the flag will be activated at the digital domain before passing the metadata over to the AVR or Amp’s D-A conversion.
It is quite clear because when we tested the bumblebee MKV file, that file doesn’t contain the dialnorm nor dynamic compression flag. But changing the settings on the AVR , changes how the AVR processes the signal , compressing the loudest and boosting the lower passage. This setting here, can be done for any dolby digital movie.
The difference is this.
If the original bluray contains the dialnorm and dynamic compression flag, this “CANNOT” be defeated by anthem, unless u switch it to PCM at source player and not bitstream. The signal comes in at lowered volume with dynamic compression engaged.
If the bluray file doesn’t contain dialnorm and dynamic compression, one can choose to apply the necessary dynamic compression by going to “dolby audio post processing”. The processor then applies the necessary voicing to enhance dialog and compresses audio so loud and soft passages sound the same
So one is without a choice, the anthem “will”process the dynamic compression and level offset if it sees this flag when bitstreamed.
Another is the user gets to choose if he wants to have dialogue enhanced and dynamic compression engaged . It becomes a choice here
I concur, personally I preferred the MK signature to the JL he had previously, it’s a big leap in performance compared to the previous set up with the denon
Thanks - can you share some details on how the testing and comparison was done to determine how Anthem is implementing the dialnorm Metadata?
My understanding is with no dialnorm defeat, the MV offset will be there. However, the dynamic compression will only be implemented if the Night mode etc is enabled. Otherwise it is just the MV offset.
I came to this conclusion from reading the Dolby paper on Metadata. Anthony Grimani also states similar in his article. The MV offset can be work around by turning up the volume.
Unfortunately, Anthem doesn’t seem to show us what DialNorm values are in the Info page. At least, we know how much to raise the MV to compensate the DialNorm.
