*Official Thread* Anthem AVM 70 & 90 and MRX 540, 740 & 1140

If so, I think we can still stick with the previously suggested timeline. Let me know.

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wahhhh, looks like its good to go Desray… a few more stuff. Next up is crowsons integration. The motion actuator stuff. Trying to balance time with experimenting and family time. looking forward to hosting you and exchange pointers.

I just spent 2+ hours and finished testing for HT and Music. Absolutely loved it!! once i got pass the gain optimisation and sub blending stage, this processor sounded fantastic! A few notches up from the previous set up with the Lyngdorf MP50.

Those who have heard the Lyngdorf set up and loved it, you will be mesmerized with this AVM90 set up.

There is so much energy and the sound is very dynamic, a lot of “oomph”. The details are not only present, it is clearly identifiable as a separate object in space at the listening area, very very precise object placement with lotsa energy, superb. the bubble is very immersive. But for me, it was initially fatiguing with EQ to schroeder 200hz only for HT. Whilst it preserved the dynamics from the speakers, it sounded a bit too bright for me when so many speakers were playing with so much high frequency energy. (personal preference). I used that tilt for LCR to counter balance the energy and it worked like a charm. Definitely try the negative tilt for Home Theatre, see if you like it. I am actually hearing a very clear separation now because the high frequencies from the speaker, those in the 8-12khz range, is not as piercing, much more subdued and doesnt mask out other details. it sounded a lot more balanced now and i can go on for 2hrs +. With the schroeder EQ for speakers up to 200hz, i could only handle 30mins and fatigue kicks in. So to each his own. you need to be happy with your EQ approach and decide what you like better. Now i am happy to say, its to the level i am expecting from the AVM90

i was worried if i had done something wrong earlier, as the levels were way too loud. now its all good.

Multi channel music EQ is solid man. You must configure for this separate profile if you love Multichannel music. Just make sure gain structure is optimized. Different amplifiers have different gain levels, so you need to play around to find out which levels to use. in my case, it was +8.5db calibration level on the AVM90 with the Purifi Amps from Apollon.

I can safely ditch the ageing oppo 205 for music now. But ill still keep it for video playback vide usb and disc. (eliminate more cables) I thought i could move to zidoo, but seems like zidoo is also not cheap. will see how it goes along the way.

So i have now confirmed it sounded a lot nicer with music on the anthem, apart from 2.2, 5.2 music, you can use it for Atmos music. My earlier concerns were energy levels. A lot of times, i notice high damping factor provides for a cleaner sound but in the process robs away dynamics and energy. But to my delight, the AVM90 had all the oomph and sounded clean at the same time. So im very glad that was the case.

very very good!!!

Congrats to AVM90 users, you will be very very happy with this processor, trust me. No turning back… it is Reference stuff if you ask me.

Happy to recommend this processor to anyone, just go ahead if you have the budget and in the look out for a processor. Definitely consider the AVM90. If you have doubts, PM me and if i have the time, i will host you for the demo. Trust me, very poisonous…9/10…

The only down side is blending of subs, blending subs to mains, gain optimization and the remote. but all of these are manageable. Its not a show stopper. I am sure we will see improvements from Anthem along the way…

Syok Nirvana!!

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LoL…this is the first time I read an owner congratulating to others using the same product as him. Joke aside, I’m glad you love Anthem sound signature. I guess its time to let go your MP-50 liao…

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Hahahaha…. Lol

Ya for a moment I was worried, with the blending and then gain so high… thought something wrong… thank god all sorted

Now peace of mind, can enjoy and even dare to recommend with confidence…

Chinese saying goes… Gan Gan Lai… Bu Hou Hui!

breaking news !!! going to my dealer to test the avm-90.

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:laughing: Are you going to switch back to Anthem by any chance now???

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For those who aren’t aware, ARC Genesis has this polarity bug for the subwoofers that existed since v1.6.5 Beta. One AVSforum member came up with a way to check for the polarity and whether it is set up correctly using the Quick Measure tool. This is for those who do not own a Umik 1 or know how to use REW to check. Read his guide here: https://www.avsforum.com/threads/dedicated-arc-genesis-thread.3068892/post-61791986

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Yes desray, I have just confirmed it. 1.6.5 is buggy.! Confirmed . The auto phase correction for subs to mains doesn’t work correctly if one has a multi sub set up.

It doesn’t blend subs to mains correctly, but it does it correctly if u r using only 1 subwoofer.

Anyway, I won’t share the factual data unless someone is keen to know.

I will attempt to confirm again today with v1.6.10

So v 1.6.5 no go for auto phase correction, don’t waste your time with 1.6.5 auto phase

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Definitely have a listen. Very solid. My personal findings. No bias as I’m not in the audio business, I’m an end user like u. But this is a giant killer processor

U can line up storm, trinnov, lyngdorf, datasat and AVM90. Without any room eq , just pass through the signal and play a music or a familiar movie with tons of details. A good scene is aliens covenant jungle scene

Then just pay attention to the details , footsteps, waterfall, breath, lighting up of cigarette, fire, wind, to the virus entering his ears…all the micro details damn solid on the AVM90

I’ll share the video clip when I get a chance….

After that u can decide yourself…

Some dealers have a switch, they can toggle A B C for you to compare… some don’t

I have now just upgraded to ARC 1.6.10, i will have another look again if this version works well for multi sub blending and Subs to mains blending.

Back to 4 dedicated vs 2 blended pairs using 1.6.10, will share my findings.

I can confirm ARC 1.6.5 doesnt work well for multi sub blending and Sub to mains blending. It works nicely only if you have a single sub set up in the system.

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i use this clip to test for details, a lot of details, its an old movie, non Atmos soundtrack. Its just plain DTS-HD MA. but its a very good clip to pick up the details. I also use this to compare DTS-HD MA vs DTS Neural X processing. A video sample that im very familiar with

You can download it here,

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1niyOe1fdd-a97EDMA84OKOwONMq5MlPv/view?usp=sharing

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Bro bro try try keep us posted thanks a lot appeciated. :slight_smile:

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Yea bro, I want to make one more attempt with ARC 1.6.10. I was using 1.6.5 after reading reviews from users on AVS forum that it sounded better. So I need to give arc a chance with the 1.6.10 version , it could have been fixed for multi subs blending

I initially used 1.6.5, after reading reviews from AVS members that it sounded better on 1.6.5 compared to 1.6.10.

I have the .arc3 file for 4 dedicated, vs 2 pairs. All I need now is to validate with REW

A few to share below



All seem to suggest 1.6.5 sounded better post EQ. That is why I used 1.6.5

But I must use 1.6.10 now, and see how it goes with subs blending with 4 dedicated out. They might have fixed the issue with 1.6.10

So I cannot rule that possibility out as yet and write them off. It should be done with the latest firmware that has all the bug fixes

Will share the results soon

Hello friends.
Yesterday after my dealer informed me that the Anthem AVM-90 has come on display in the store and I am welcome to get an unnecessary impression to note that I accepted the offer.
The processor was connected to a switchboard which can be switched at the push of a button from another set-up to another which helps to switch to another set-up.
Set up for the exam included:
AVM-90
LYNGDORF MP-40.
PARADIGIM FOUNDER 100F
PARADIGM FOUNDER 90C
PARADIGM FOUNDER 40 B
SVS PRIME ELEVATION FOR ATMOS
PSA EV1813 X2 SUBWOOFERS.
TRINNOV AMPLITUDE 16 POWER AMP.
After the excitement passed we started with an endless listening session which included a lot of movies and demo clips with which I examine movies and music in order to form an opinion and make it as solid as possible.
I focused mainly on the nuances and the smallest details which are very important to me in the sound reproduction such as the ability to reproduce the soundtrack, the processor dealing with demanding to chaotic sections and the processor can pass them easily and effortlessly and not miss any detail and God forbid paint the soundtrack.
Anthem as usual and in the best tradition did not disappoint.
The separations were fantastic on a different level from the AVM-70 but not a substantial and absolute difference.
The AVM-90 has the ability to integrate the entire speaker array in an excellent way and give you the feeling that you are in a three-dimensional and very convincing sound bubble, but so does the AVM-70 and in a very good way. Maybe not as accurate as the AVM-90 performs but the differences are not that big in my personal opinion.
I was very much missing the impact which I like at the bass management level. I was missing something in the level of transferring the energy and power impact in bass-rich sections and here I was a bit disappointed unfortunately but I’m sure it will be addressed in a version update of ARC GENESIS soon befitting a reputable company like Anthem.
The AVM-90 is a processor that can demonstrate a lot of power and insane processing ability and can stand with pride and respect in front of the top processors in my opinion.
In the two-channel audio test it impressed me very, very much and I was even surprised by this level of performance … everything sounds accurate, clean, detailed and airy and very delightful, which is a significant improvement over the AVM-70, which I think is a cold and mechanical one.
When I compared the anthem to the LYNGDORF MP-40 the conclusions were divided and ambiguous. There are points that you have defeated Lingdorf and vice versa but …
The correct answer to this is that it did not come close to the level of dynamism and the level of bass integration in a coherent and convincing way like Hlingdorf and for me this is the most significant part.
So despite the phenomenal capabilities that Anthem has presented in a very convincing way to my taste and opinion and personal experience Lingdorf is my favorite processor so I will stay with him and continue to enjoy the processor.
It is important for me to note that there was no knockout victory here but more personal taste but there is no doubt at all that the anthem is a crazy device and anyone looking for a formidable movie machine anthem undoubtedly delivers the goods in a very convincing way.

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Thanks for the very balanced and unbiased review on the shootout at your dealer shop. I’m sure you will be happy with Lyngdorf for a long long time to come. Enjoy!

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I have a question for a friend and would love to get help.
My friend has an MRX-1140. And after calibrating and uploading it to the receiver he performed PHASE-CORRECTION and he claimed the process took about 6 minutes and during the whole process he heard very high tones which got very loud throughout the process to a level that it was just unbearable and very jarring.
Is that how it should be and is it okay?
In the end the process was successful but the very high tones made it something wrong.

This issue is random and does not manifest itself every time. Did I get it? Yes, you bet! it is about 1 out of 5 attempts…but to use the words, “unbearable and jarring” is a bit too extreme. To date, there is no solution to this odd “phenomenon” and so far Anthem did not address this as an issue. For what it’s worth, the duration mentioned by your friend is right…it can take up to 5 - 6 mins to complete the auto-phase adjustments between the subs and the mains. Is this normal? No, if you ask me, The ball is in Anthem’s court to figure out what’s the issue here.

thank you very much desray. :heart_eyes:

Good news and bad news ! I did a quick 2.4 stereo to confirm measurements on all subs

With version 1.6.10, all 4 subwoofers are blending nicely now. I have just completed the verification process. All SPLs, decay, THD numbers are all good

Perfect sum in black

The summation of all 4 subs now look very similar to the lyngdorf eq. decay also looks better below

Woo Hoo!

Can ditch the splitter !! Ditch ahhhh

But the auto phase feature is still not ideal…

You can see there is slight cancellation at 95hz, but not too bad !! Can be fined tuned .

Wah looks like 1.6.5 is no go for multi sub users. 1.6.10 is the software to use when blending 4 subs.

See comparison of 4 subs using different version of firmware 1.6.5 vs 1.6.10. No changes to sub location, at most slight variation of mic placement by a few cm

So poor the blending on 1.6.5, anthem must have realised it and provided an updated 1.6.10

Wasted 3 days of my time confirming 1.6.5 ! Grrr… should have started off with 1.6.10… hmmm

Next hope the auto phase function works, I’m sure anthem will improve on this. In the mean time… I will now have to re-measure for the rest again….

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Did you play with the polarity for your 4 subs and re-measure?