I am also 8805 user with dspeaker 8033SII. Say hi to you, mpyw
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I agree to this. Calibrating Marantz/Denon using Dirac is a breeze, especially one has capacity to save it into different profile, change/tune from Dirac before upload into the unit is worth every penny spent!
I would encourage folks having the upgrade capability to try it. Even better than audyssey in my opinion!
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Hello!!!
Too bad the AV8805 cannot updates with Dirac, but even if it can, the cost are quite steep compared with MultEQ-X which is $199 ($149 during sales)
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DLBC coming
Hi, nice comprehensive topic on Audyssey. I am still new to this (got a Marantz last week) and am already DEEP in the rabbit hole. I already experimented with the app, the tool from github (to boost bass curve) and various settings with DEQ on/off.
Right now (before I finish my 5.1 setup) I only have 2.0 speakers connected, and I am listening to music. (For now).
I was disappointed at first to calibrate my system with Audyssey MultEQ XT since it sounded so crappy with music. It literally took all life from the speakers.
So I got the Audyssey app.
I read up on how one should limit the frequency to 300-500 or so, which I did. I also boosted +5db on 20hz and 50hz.
Then I tried music with MultiEQ and DEQ on (0db!), and I was BLOWN AWAY, it really sounded like I wanted my system to sound. Bass not boomy, but still VERY present, I am a basshead.
But I found that it’s really not easy with DEQ. I understand how it works and that it is sort-of a level-dependent loudness compensation.
Oddly enough, I get the best results with Spotify (streaming to the Marantz) and the curve set to Ref, DEQ on at 0db, extremely dynamic sound how I like it.
But then at the same settings it can sound terrible again when instead of Spotify I am outputting from my PC playing MP3s using MPC-HC directly via HDMI to the AVR.
I think the issue here is that the levels into the AVR are not consistent, must be different levels with playing Spotify, versus playing MP3s from my PC. I still not to figure this out.
All I can say is that everything on Spotify sounds great with DEQ on, and I want to reproduce this also for other sources.
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Edit: Something still doesn’t seem right.
Obviously the idea of DEQ is that the sound sounds as intended regardless of volume. At reference level there is no need to boost bass and treble, check, the lower the level, the more a boost of bass and treble. From that point of view input levels SHOULDN’T MATTER, as correcting for this this is exactly DEQ’s job.
Yet, I am puzzled that there is deep, deep bass with Spotify, and then I switch over to my HDMI input (same MultEQ settings) and I play high quality MP3, and it sounds FLAT. I don’t understand it.
Audyssey MultEQ XT32 ain’t perfect, esp in the DEQ portion where bass and treble will be increased when listening at lower listening level. The sound theory by Audyssey engineers is “sound” but the implementation requires further tweaks to make it work.
You can follow my tutorial on the use of a utility calld Ratbussedy here: Everything about Audyssey Calibration that you need to know - #4 by desray
Just to double-check, I set the curve to “flat” in Ratbuddyssey AND then in the AVR?
The “frequency cutoff” in Ratbuddy is equivalent to the “MultEQ filter frequency range” in the app?
Since I am currently only using a 2.0 setup (without sub), I don’t need to bother about trim or anything else?
Thanks, good guide!!!
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You need to try Audyssey One by OCA! Check out his YT
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Thx for sharing this audyssey one thing!
What does audyssey one do? Get better post calibration FR? Or better time alignment between speakers and subs
Yes. set the curve to “flat” instead of reference. And yes, all the parameters like distance, crossover, gain etc from the Ratbussedy is taken from the ady file itself.
If you are using 2.0 setup w/o subwoofer? This whole guide isn’t meant for you. If you read carefully, when using Ratbussedy, we are defeating Dynamic EQ (DEQ) and do a custom house curve for our subwoofers to ensure the LFE at low freq range will sound good as compared to using Audyssey’s DEQ which can boost the LFE too much and raise the treble too harsh that makes the whole listening experience not so “clean”.
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Audyssey one optimises audyssey calibration. It extract the measurements taken by MultEQ and greatly improves clarity cohesion, soundstage by optimizing levels, xo freq and distance and very importantly eq filters. The latest is A1 Evo v2.0. Do check it out if you have D/M avr. The jump from XT32 to A1 is big in my opinion but subsequent versions improve is just subtle to me. Also Evo makes my sound fatiguing but it seems I’m only 1 facing this issue and I haven’t found the root cause despite play with toe in/out, changing correct freq range don’t what else I can do
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It’s version 2.3 now
I don’t like v2.0, vol too low, lack LFE etc, had reverted back to v1.6 which I think is the best to me apart from v1.2
Had run the 2.3 and loaded in my app but not the AVR yet, but the log looks good with the crossover and distance, will upload maybe this week