All Acoustics related

Wechnivag is spot on. There is no benefit with using “foam base” material as bass traps. They not only don’t work in absorbing bass, they suck away the useful high frequencies energy.

My advise is to ditch the foam, if u r serious about quality, but to each their own.

To add to Wechnivag point, the better alternative is to use pressure absorption type of device, like tuned traps. They work very effectively in handling “pressure” instead of “velocity”

We know that corner areas are high in pressure, but Low in velocity. So they are much more effective when we use this approach.

A subwoofer can also deal with pressure, so in the case of a subwoofer, we use a subwoofer to provide the cancellation on a given frequency, this method also work, but involves the use of multiple subs.

Another active device, similar to Subwoofers, like the PSI active bass trap, works as well. But that device works mainly from the broadband frequencies from 20-200hz. So they absorb across the range instead

You will also notice that “pressure based devices” cost more than “velocity based devices” like rockwool, mineral wool so on

The benefits are huge, when u use the right material and the right approach to tackle the room problems

To keep it simple, for the layman,

Think of velocity as

A car speeding at 200km/hr on the high way… as you accelerate, you increase the velocity, at this stage , pressure is very Low

Now what happens when the car in front brakes, the car behind with high velocity , hits onto the car in front of it, at this stage, the car in front of it, will dent as a result of high pressure bang from the car behind , transferring that energy onto the car in front

In our room, the energy is like that, if we place a pair of speakers in front , and sit at the middle of the room or 2/3 back, the area we are seated at, has high velocity, Low pressure. When that energy moves past us, hits the back wall, it accumulates in pressure, hence we call this pressure zones

The same concept with an air tight container with hot food inside , when u put hot cooked food inside, pressure builds up, when u open that air tight container; u r letting loose some of the heat, the pressure is released

This is also another method that some like to use, which is to open one of the door, make sure the room is not fully sealed, so pressure can leak out through this door…

That’s the explanation, in layman terms

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Placement and MLP will also have an influence. If you can’t move both much then room treatment and EQ are the way to go.

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Thanks bro,yes paid some ‘schools fee’ along the way but eventually all done liao,this morning the last 2pcs of BAD panels been put up behind the MLP in front the GIK panel. As promised below are the final phase pics:

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:scream::scream:

Very nice ! The last round we were already drooling, the sound quality in that room is already damn Tok gong !

Can’t imagine this round with the divini Reference 18 in the mix…

Congrats and enjoy

Haha now really ‘unleashed’ the full potential of the whole system,looking much better also,very satisfied n happy. :blush:
By the way ready for u to come for another round demo liao.

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Roger roger!! Coming this month with Alvin

We are living proof of how much the system has improved over the years

It will be very interesting to see how big that gap of improvement now!

Can’t wait… looking forward to it!

And especially all the dsd files Chinese songs are so good!

:+1: looking forward for u guys to revisit also.


This looks awesome, not easy, seeing the guys building it … tiring… probably get neck pain

Check out the size of that acoustic door!!

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From excavating the basement in order to achieve a sufficient ceiling height to integrating our activated carbon technology directly into the walls and floor, the process of creating this room was a spectacular journey. And the results speak for themselves!

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:muscle:t2::muscle:t2: this one…

Hope you learn something from the video, try and pick up the details…

Here above :point_up_2:t2: is one useful article, not only is the material important for acoustic, how u place them makes a difference.

The article explains the benefits of an air gap when placing the acoustic panels that are mostly velocity type absorbers and why the air gap is beneficial

Also important to understand is if you are to double the efficiency of the absorption, the air gap should ideally be the thickness size of the panel

As explained many times , it’s always about the air flow resistivity in combination with the density of the material.

Also explained many times, don’t just look at the frequency response of the graph, look at spectrogram and filtered impulse response, these will tell you how fast the energy decays in the room

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Yah, looks awesome, is it available locally?

Not sure , real traps ? I think u gotta ship from overseas.

GIK makes good effective panels

Then there is also local DIY

Where did you get those pictures from? Maybe can find out from source of those pictures.


The latest to join the wing family, that’s the new mini wing panel 2023 edition

The above :point_up_2:t2: the effect of 2 pieces of flat panel

Impact of spaciousness effect with 2 pieces of the mini smt wing at 1m distance and mic at 1.2m with speakers at 2m away. The extended decay times >5khz looks mighty impressive, coming in at 20 periods… that’s only 2 pieces… :muscle:t2::muscle:t2:

Quality stuff…

Elsewhere, we have the artnovion room



Looks beautiful :heart_eyes:, nicely done

Is Mr Lee still making and selling this?